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It is high time Sahaja Yogis/nis
focus much much more on meditation than treatment
From:
"jagbir singh" <www.adishakti.org@gmail.com>
Date: Thu Jan 6, 2005 7:02 am
Subject: It is high time Sahaja Yogis/nis focus
much much more on meditation than treatment
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>
> jagbir
>
> Note: i would also advise members not to provide
unsolicited catch
> analysis and advise on this forum. It only makes
matters worse
> because there are times when your own catches/problems
are read as
> those belonging to others. And i have made it clear
over and over
> again that we should just let the Mother Kundalini do
Her job. If
> SYs do not get over this mindset few seekers would
want to join
> Sahaja Yoga. Newcomers will always flee from SYs like
Nitin who
> can only ceaselessly chatter about catches. Is this
what the
> Divine Message to humanity is all about?
>
To:
divinesahajayoga@yahoogroups.com
From: "drbalwinder" <drbalwinder@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:21:46 -0000
Subject: Re: DivineSahajayoga needs treatment for high
blood
pressure
Thank you Mahesh bhai for this excellent post. It is
high time
Sahaja Yogis/nis focus much much more on meditation than
treatments.
I have seeked treatment at Belapur Hospital and what you
say is
true - just like in allopathic medicine each individual
requires
specific treatment even if the disease is the same, the
same goes
for Sahaj treatment.
There were sahaja yogis who meant well and tried to help
me but at
the end of the day all it needed was a trip to Belapur.
There is also a fear among Sahaja Yogi/nis
(locally/internationally)
of being labeled as poor yogi/nis (or even being labeled
negative)
if they develop a problem or disease - I know because
they come to
me for help but request that nobody in the collective
knows about
it. This should never happen in the first place but we
have only
ourselves to blame for it.
The doctors at Belapur are always emphasising that
kundalini is the
greatest healer and thus meditation is the best form of
"treatment".
We must just leave it to the Adishakti and Mother
Kunadalini to sort
out our "problems" while putting in a greater effort in
our
meditation.
Balwinder
> In
divinesahajayoga@yahoogroups.com, mahesh khatri
> <maheshkhatri@y...> wrote:
>
> Dear brothers and Sisters
>
> There are many treatments being advised by one and all
free of
> charge without diagnosing, without knowledge and still
believe it
> will work. If by doing footsoaking in saltwater all
our problems
> get dissolved, all fishermen would be free of
problems. If by
> keeping ice pack on liver, blood pressure and other
problems can
> be controlled, all persons in cold countries would be
free of such
> problems and if lemons, chillies, matka would suck
away all
> negativities and bhoots and cure cancer then it would
be a very
> wise investment in Tata Cancer hospital instead of
wasting
> millions in research and other treatments.
>
> But then what about the miracles and cures we have
seen in sy
> since long?
>
> First of all we all should stop recommending
treatments. That is
> not our job. There is a health center where they give
treatments
> as per sahaj. We only see the upper crust. Like they
did candling
> etc. What we did not see is that there was a mantra
being said in
> the mind by the doctor giving treatment. and that too
Jagrut
> mantra. How does Mantra become Jagrut? Otherwise there
are many
> pandits who like sys recommend Hanuman Chalisa or Devi
Mahatmay or
> Ganesh Atharvasheesh or any other mantra. We have seen
people
> chanting Hare Rama Hare Krishna continuously. And what
is their
> fate?
>
> The Main thing is Meditation. That too Sahaj
Meditation. Otherwise
> there are many people out there doing Meditation. So
called.
>
> Only when we are in actual Meditation, like in Sahaj
we can
> effortlessly, can we be free from all negativities.
Treatments
> like footsoaking, candle etc are all catalysts which
help us to go
> in meditation with more ease. But we see sys having
full
> concentration on treatments and little on meditation.
It should be
> reverse. FULL ATTENTION on meditation and very little
on
> treatments. Early morning time is very good for
meditation. The
> time is when almost everyone is sleeping and there are
very less
> thought processes in the air, which create
disturbances and
> obstructions. Cosmic Vibrations are easy to absorb at
such time.
> How many sys sincerely do early morning meditation?
Not the ones
> with problems I bet.
>
> Also there are many who are still in doubt. they have
not reached
> doubtless awareness. Unless and until we reach
doubtless awareness
> and really from within recognize Shri Mataji as
adishakti things
> will not workout.
>
> It is very easy to say Yes we believe Shri Mataji is
Adishakti.
> But from heart also you should believe. Then if we
believe, we
> should know that Shri Mataji is within ourself. Very
near to us
> and close to us, always with us. Then why do we long
to have
> DARSHAN and so called leaders clamour to go in front.
Cannot we
> have darshan in meditation and enjoy in bliss. Why do
we have
> loose talk about Shri Mataji's health. In Sakar form,
Shri Mataji
> is Human as well. Why cannot we comprehend that the
divine has
> stooped to our level to make us understand which we
cannot with
> our limited brains. Only when we give up our thinking
and go
> beyond can we understand Divine.
>
> I believe that the answer to all problems is
meditation. We all
> need to go deeper and deeper and leave our never
ending problems
> at her lotus feet and witness the miracles and cures
and
> nourishment.
>
> Jai Shri Mataji
>
>
>
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>
> A K Jha <akjha@b...> wrote:
>
> Jai Shri Mata Ji
> Apart from the treatments listed below, We may have to
pray to our
> Shri Mata Ji by telling from our heart that " Mother I
do nothing.
> You are only doing everything."
> Regards
> A.K Jha
>
>
>
> madhusudan pillai wrote:
>
> > Jai Shri Mataji !!!
> > Dear Family,
> > We needs to know if there is any other treatment,
other than
> > sitting in cold salt water,108 times from left to
right and ice
> > pack on liver, for very high blood pressure. After
doing these
> > treatments still the BP is on high side. Dr's advice
is also
> > welcomed. Need's to be urgent.
> >
> > with nirmal love,
> > madhusudan(kmadhu60@y...)
> >
From: "jagbir
singh" <www.adishakti.org@gmail.com>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:38 am
Subject: Re: It is high time Sahaja Yogis/nis
focus much much more on meditation than treatment |
To:
divinesahajayoga@yahoogroups.com
From: "megmerga" <megmerga@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 01:53:23 -0000
Subject: Re: DivineSahajayoga needs treatment for
high blood
pressure
---Dear Brother,
I found your letter very interesting because it
touches on something
on which I have often reflected on in the last few
years.
Your inference that poor quality and quantity of
meditation is the
cause of physical malady is doubtlessly valid. You
state that:
`How many sys sincerely do early morning meditation?
Not the ones
with problems I bet.'
In most cases this is true. However, this implies
that only lazy,
shallow yogis suffer from physical ailments. I
realise that this is
not what you were trying to say exactly but anyhow
it brings me to
the point which I wish to discuss.
Many people come to Sahaja Yoga to get cured. Then
once their
problem go away, which they often do, many of these
miracle cases
then leave Sahaja Yoga. It is clear that Sahaja Yoga
has miraculous
curative powers by the grace of our Holy Mother, but
clearly just
getting cured is not the point. It is perfectly
acceptable that
people wish to cure themselves and their loved ones;
it is after
all, more challenging to meditate when one is
medicated and/or in
physical pain. However, Sahaja Yoga offers so much
more, and if your
focus is only to get cured, then you are really
missing a great
chance.
It is clear that you don't need to be a great yogi
to get cured. It
is also true that even yogis who `sincerely do early
morning
meditation' will, sooner or later, even die.
The fact is, all of our bodies will one day falter
and die. The
immortality that Sahaja Yoga offers is not one of
the flesh- it is
much, much greater than that. Even Divine
incarnations readily leave
Their bodies behind when Their role is completed,
sometimes, as in
the case of the real Shri Sai Baba of Shirdi, to be
fought over long
after their demise.
It is important to maintain the well being of your
physical person
following your discrimination and Mother's
guidelines, however
excessive focus on our bodies can only draw our
attention away from
that which is eternal within us- Our Spirit. It is
that which we
will retain forever, so rather than become
distracted by the other
mundane attachments of this world, we should surely
strive to
cleanse our true selves. This way, when our
inevitable physical
decline begins, whether it be sudden or prolonged,
we can be fully
comforted by the knowledge that we have done our
best and made great
progress in this lifetime.
The often quoted CS Lewis novel The Great Divorce
provides a
fascinating perspective of what happens to the
spirit when a person
becomes too attached to worldly ways and
conditionings . As Sahaja
Yogis, we cannot come to Mother when our body is
done and plead
ignorance. If we go deeper and ask for the pure
knowledge of the
Spirit and come to a deep understanding of the
Deities, we will see
how they act within our lives to support us every
minute of the day.
When our attention is completely pure, we can ask
Shri Ganesha to
please stand between us and evil and we will know
that He will come!
Once we have this knowledge, there will be nothing
to fear. When we
do eventually die, as many yogis, greater and
lesser, have done
before us, our Yogi family will say
`That was a Yogi who was truly devoted. He did
everything he could
to become closer to Mother in meditation, and
brought many people to
Sahaja Yoga. He is with Mother now'.
For once you have the deep, pure meditation, the
complete Shraddha,
it actually won't matter to you how your body
declines, as you will
be fearless and have the complete comfort of your
pure spirit. Thus,
it is the health of the spirit that should be valued
most highly,
above all.
Yours respectfully, with deepest thanks to Shri
Mataji Nirmala Devi
who has let us drink from the Holy Grail, and have
the true
immortality,
Margaret Merga
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