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Mass hysteria, brainwashing, what is
it?
From: "v_koa" <v_koa@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:47 am
Subject: Mass hysteria, brainwashing, what is
it??
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Dear all,
I was sitting at home today and listening to my mother
talk to one
of her friends on the phone about both of their troubles
etc, and my
mother is a devout catholic, and she was comforting her
friend and
assuring her many of her friends problems are actually
"blessings"
and many of the coincidences in her life and my mothers
life in
regards to the people they meet and have met, either for
the good or
the bad, were all part of gods plan for them or were
there for a
special purpose ordained by god. Now considering I fully
believe all
that sahaja yoga is about and adishakti.org is about,
even if it is
only at an intellectual level for me right now, these
things my
mother says "I'll pray for you", "the reason why such
things are
happening or people are in your life must be the will of
god or for
a special purpose by god" seem so ridiculous to me. I
mean none of
these people have had their realization or know anything
of the
kundalini, kingdom of god within or holy spirit,
especially the holy
spirit outside a church context. Not only that, but she
is always
talking about praying for this person and for their
healing and this
and that, but if they aren't connected to god or even
for that
matter the HOLY SPIRIT except for in their minds( they
haven't had
realization so aren't they disconnect from the HS?)who
are they
talking to or requesting help from? Wouldn't that just
be the power
of intention and not the HS? As well my mother has the "
gift of
tongues" so to speak, but I really think that has
nothing to do with
god or the holy spirit whatsoever, but she deems these
experiences
she has had and her intuition in regards to things,
because it is
quite strong, as being guided by the holy spirit. IF
this is not
that case, then what force or entity or trick of the
mind are
controlling such things or influencing such behavior,
thoughts and
experiences. I've always wondered this. When we have
conversations
about the spirit, it always comes back to these things
and in my
head I'm thinking" you have never met god", though
neither have I.
I don't know if this is a post with questions in it or
just me
wanting to knows things I can't articulate, but if
anyone out there
can pick this apart and find anything in here to shed
some light on
whatever it is I am looking for, that would be great.
Kyyan
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From: "violet_tubb" <vtubb@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: Mass hysteria, brainwashing, what
is it??
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Dear Kyyan,
I will try to help you by "painting a picture"
figuratively
speaking, to try and help you to see what
"Pentecostalism" is all
about.
We have Pentecostalism. People go to church. They have a
nice time.
They want to "deepen" their faith and it often is very
genuine. They
really want to get close to God.
In the Pentecostal church service, things may happen
like a rousing
song, clapping, and great camaraderie; everyone becomes
"one in the
Spirit and one in the Lord". Then they might "dance in
the Spirit"
or "speak in tongues."
While people are in this excited state, a Minister may
do
a "rousing" welcome such as "Halleluyah! Praise the
Lord! How are
you my brother/sister? Are we well today/tonight?! The
audience may
respond out loud and answer the ministers question out
loud.
Everyone becomes like a happy family.
This whole routine generates a state of "happiness" and
"excitement"
at the "togetherness" felt. The audience may become
slightly tired
from all this excitement and quite relaxed and may lapse
into
a "receptive" state. (You could compare it to doing
physical
exercise and you use up your oxygen from the exertion
and then you
feel very relaxed and slightly sleepy.
By the time the Minister is ready to give his sermon,
everyone is in
such a "happy" state of mind that they will probably
accept whatever
he says because in this state, what is said goes
directly into the
brain without going through the "critical" process.
Normally, what
the minister says would go through people's thinking
faculties but
they are bypassed when people are in this happy
receptive state of
mind. So, they can then accept whatever is said.
This is a method of "conditioning" like you see on the
Tele-
Evangelist's Programs on T.V. whereby they operate in
this style
to "soften" people up for their "message." You can also
compare it
to when you inadvertently watch "ads" on T.V. but were
not meaning
to do so.
All these "highs" keep people on an "up" psychologically
for the
week and they might also like to go to church on
Wednesda, Friday
and Sunday to get a "boost".
If they don't go to church, they may feel a "downer"
coming on and
they also feel very "guilty" because they have been
convinced into
believing by the minister that if they do not go, they
will likely
stray from the "straight and narrow".
These people often become "depressed" and "elated" in
turns. The
subtle system works that way. They swing from their
"left" channels
to their "right" channels of the Sympathetic Nervous
System and that
is why it is so exhausting; these centres continually
being drained.
They are also "convinced" by the minister into believing
that as
long as they talk to people about their "problems" and
"pray" with
them, that they are being good Christians and will
definitely go to
Heaven.
They also teach, as you say, that "all problems are
there for a
reason and that they are "blessings" in disguise; that
there is a
reason for everything. This is not necessarily "wrong"
but it is not
always "right" either under certain circumstances.
Kyyan, the whole system is a bit of a merry-go-round.
Pentecostals
believe that they are talking to God because they "feel"
the "euphoria" is the Holy Spirit. You will not be able
to tell them
otherwise! You can compare the "addictive trend" like a
runners that
are addicted to physical exercise to get the "adrenalin
rush".
The Bible predicted that we would receive the Baptism of
the Holy
Spirit at this time. The Incarnation of the "Comforter"
has come in
the person of Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Previously, the
Baptism of
the Holy Spirit was received by very few "initiates"
such as the
disciples and the Gnostics and others but they were
separate from
the main congregations of Christianity as were the
"private"
teachings of Jesus Christ.
Meanwhile, over the centuries, the "priestly caste" has
become very
powerful. The "priestly caste" is referred to in the
Bible as
the "blind leading the blind". The "priestly caste" in
fact is so
busy with "politics" and "dogma", that they "cannot
enter in
themselves and prevent others" (Bible).These "priestly
caste" are
called "blind", because, true to fundamentalism, they
close their
eyes to the Truth found in the essence of all religions.
They often
even consider non-Pentecostal branches of Christianity
not to have
the full "gospel truth". They believe that they are the
only ones to
have the "full gospel" because they believe that they
are able to
give everyone the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
The real Baptism of the Holy Spirit is felt as a Cool
Breeze, which
was felt on the Day of Pentecost when the disciples felt
the wind.
In addition to "bringing to remembrance" the old Truths,
Sri Mataji
has also "enlightened" and "explained" a lot. This
includes the
teachings of all the Incarnations and Prophets. She also
fulfills
the prophecy of the Last Judgment and the Resurrection
and gives us
a positive message that we can "evolve" or "ascend" to
become our
Spirt and avoid thereby be "saved" from the calamities
happening
around us today all over the world.
In Pentecostalism, though, they think that they have the
exclusive "outpouring of the Holy Spirit" and that no
one is going
to be "saved" except the Fundamentalist Pentecostal
Christians.
Kyyan, I'm sure your mother loves you and you love her.
I can tell
you that she feels 100% sure that she is on the right
path; is in
touch with God and so forth. There is no way you could
convince her
otherwise, because of her 'experiences'. Sorry to have
to say this,
but it is true. People who are entrenched in
"Pentecostalism" are
utterly convinced and will not see it any other way.
Unless
some "miracle" happens or something "bad" happens, like
the minister
committing some grave "sin" (and this has happened),
that people
wake up and take notice.
Another thing is that Fundamentalist Christians in
general all study
their Bibles very thoroughly. They will have a Bible
Verse to back
up everything they say. Unfortunately, the ministers
however, tell
them how to "interpret" the Scriptures, depending on
their "dogmas".
These "interpretations" are often very wrong. Were a
person like
yourself, Kyyan, to study the Bible and not be
"influenced" by
these "interpretations" and "dogmas", you would have a
much better
chance to find the real Truth. You would be surprised at
what you
find in the Bible. There is a lot of depth there.
Kyyan, you say that your mother has never met God. The
reason you
can say this, I believe, is that you sense that this
"merry-go-
round" is all an "outward" thing, and it is.
The real Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a very "inner"
experience and
makes you your own "guru", "master" and "teacher",
rather than
someone subject to all the "conditionings" imposed by
the churches.
Kyyan, your mother is very "genuine" in her belief and
she is doing
everything to the best of her ability to follow what she
believes to
be true. You see, it is not her fault in a way. Its is
the fault of
the "blind leaders" to a large extent.
Unfortunately, Pentecostals follow the Fundamentalist
Christian
doctrines so there is no problem for a "devout Catholic"
to
go "Pentecostal". A lot of people are falling into this
"trap" from
the so-called "frying pan" of "fundamentalism" to the
all-
consuming "fire" of "Pentecostalism".
That's why there is a need to get the message out
urgently about SM
and the Last Judgment and Resurrection, so that
Christians have a
chance to have the "real" Baptism of the Holy Spirit,
rather than
the "fake" one. Christians already believe in the Last
Judgment and
Resurrection, although a very Doomsday version of it.
Fundamentalist Christians do not believe in the unity of
the Truth
of Jesus, Mohammed, Abraham, Moses, Confucius, Socrates,
Plato, Guru
Nanak and others, so they are dividing the Truth.
However, Truth is
One.
Kyyan, all you can do is to seek and see the Truth
clearly yourself
and live your life that way. You need to be your own
guru and not
let anyone else become your guru and I believe from what
you have
said, that you are doing that.
Meanwhile, please do have love and compassion for your
mother
because she is treading a difficult path full of
pitfalls. Stand up
for yourself and be firm and true to your own Spirit and
speak your
Truth quietly and with confidence when your mother
wishes to talk.
This way you can be a "mirror" for your mother and maybe
one day
help her out of this "trap". One tip though; you will
also need to
familiarize yourself with the Bible and other Holy Books
to give you
the understanding and "grounding" for your experiences.
This website
helps you a lot in that way.
I hope this can help you to "see" things a bit more
clearly.
Violet |
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