Shri Mataji: "But if you put one little fish and two eggs for ten people"
Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti,
i want all to read this 1985 speech by Shri Mataji which Violet
brought up and is working on. (As moderator i had a peek and could
not resist commenting.)
"But for that we have to remember that we have developed lots of
antidotes in England. Like the words I've seen people use, very
common is, "That may be too much"; "It may be too much"; "They're
frightened"; "One shouldn't say too much."
You should, when you say too much at least little bit will go into
their heads. So you have to say too much. Say what you want. There
should be exuberance, exuberance of your ideas, so that something
goes into their heads. They know that you're sincere, you're saying
it sincerely, you cannot contain within yourself. Emphatically you
have to say these. That's what everybody did. All those who were
great incarnations said it with such concern, with such force. In
the same way, you have to say without any fear. "Oh, that may be too
much, Mother it was too much for him." Let him be blasted! Doesn't
matter, say everything that you have to say. Absolutely, with full
heart.
But when people come to Sahaja Yoga, when they come for say, a
workshop or something, we try to be the same party people. Like in
the party, you see, "What will you have?" Then we'll say, "Alright,
let me think. What did I have yesterday, so I'll have today this
thing." It's like a shopping going on.
No, you have to say, "We have this and please have it now, otherwise
you won't have it. This is the time!" Let them say what they like.
It's important. I see sometimes your SDP conferences and all these,
the way they speak, they just blast you, I mean, hammer in your
head. Why should we not, when this is the truth? Why should we not
tell them and talk to them in that manner? We think by being
gentle... alright gentleness is different, but I mean to say by
saying less than I say, understatement. It's typical English "That
might be too much."
In Sahaja Yoga it is such a lot that how much are you going to pour
out, can never be too much. So be careful on that. When you've to
say it, say it in a very blasty way, doesn't matter. What are they
going to do? They can't crucify me this time, can they? They dare
not. Otherwise perfectly alright, nothing can touch me. And even
crucifixion cannot touch me, you know that.
So you better say what you've found out, in a big way. And tell them
in a big way, of course loving and gentle manner but tell them, the
concern should be there. Alright?... I don't say you aggress but
don't say anything less, understatement is not needed. There should
not be any balancing in that. Those people who'll be appeased by
that will not be good Sahaja Yogis. They cannot come in the Kingdom
of God. We don't have to be begging of them but we have to honour
them, we have to respect them, we have to be kind to them, but we
have to give them what we have. Like in the family, you go, you get
everything from the fridge and give it to them, they'll be very
happy to take it whatever you like, what a spread. But if you put
one little fish and two eggs for ten people with one chili to say
that it is Sahaja Yoga, maybe a lemon, they will think, "What's this
going on here? Wishy-washy stuff." "
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
Sheffield, UK, September 21 1985
So we have solid, irrefutable evidence that Shri Mataji wanted the
Truth to be told openly without any fear or understatement. By the
words used it is clear that Shri Mataji was ticking off and scolding
cowardly SYs who were using all sorts of excuses not to frighten off
new seekers with the truth. i believe She was greatly disappointed
with such timid devotees:
"But if you put one little fish and two eggs for ten people with one
chili to say that it is Sahaja Yoga, maybe a lemon, they will
think, "What's this going on here. Wishy-washy stuff."
(i believe She was critical of the lemon and chilli treatment combo
that has today beome the sacred cow of WCASY/Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion.)
Anyway, that was 21 years ago.
Today the same timid folks have all climbed up the SY leadership
ladder and make the bulk of WCASY. In short, they hold all the
important decision-making positions ........ a cabal of cowards who
scratch each other's back (and occasionally stab too, as Guido and
company have unfortunately found out too late). Some council members
like Alan Wherry use aspiring sidekicks like John Noyce and others
to do their dirty work of monitoring this forum to harass/keep tabs on
those freeing themselves from the SY leadership clutches to follow
Shri Mataji's clear injunctions to openly announce Her incarnation
and message.
Shri Mataji is now very old, tired and, probably having had enough, has
resorted to silence as those cowards in charge do not understand
that "if you put one little fish and two eggs for ten people with
one chili to say that it is Sahaja Yoga, maybe a lemon, they will
think, "What's this going on here? Wishy-washy stuff."
i have a Feb 2006 post from Kyyan (Vancouver collective) that confirms nothing has
changed since Shri Mataji's castigation of the cowardly types in 1985:
"Like the words I've seen people use, very common is, "That may be
too much"; "It may be too much"; "They're frightened"; "One
shouldn't say too much."
It is almost unbelievable that after 21 years WCASY and the SY
leadership can still convince SYs that the truth will be too much
for seekers and that they should not say too much ...... but just
give Self-realization. It is probably the greatest collective lie in
Sahaja Yoga history. What rank and file SYs do not realize is that
history is a harsh judge who never forgets .......... or forgives.
jagbir
--- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com, "v_koa"
DEAR ALL,
(the yogi i originally named will remain absent to protect his
privacy) is right, and I have been thinking this and discussing this
with many yogis online for many months.
What it comes down to is exactly what (name withheld) yogi said: -
telling the truth. Holding a meeting once a week to give realization
is good, but how much is truly being done to get mothers message out
there like she has asked repeatedly?, which is the message that it is
the last judgement and resurrection time as prophesied in the bible
and other spiritual texts, and that she is the Adi Shakti, (the
incarnation of the Holy spirit), the breath of God, that has been
promised by Jesus to come in the time before the end to comfort
people, and to teach all he could not teach about the kingdom of
God. In laymen's terms, it is the time for us to Ascend as a whole
and individually and that The Adi Shakti (Holy Spirit)is here on
earth to connect us to ourselves and to God, allowing us time to
purify ourselves and introduce others to Her and to them selves so
they have the same chance and to be saved and to enjoy the spirit
and all the blessing that go along with it.
I feel that the Ashram is suffering as well, in part to what (name
withheld) has said, but I feel also because we are not openly
declaring the truth of what SY is, basically not doing as mother has
asked. Do we really think that SY is going to spread like wildfire
if we cloak it to initial visitors as a yoga that raises the
kundalini and works on the chakras? I mean in a huge sea of similar
yogas and meditation classes that are out there as well that claim
to raise the kundalini and do this and that with the Chakras, and
even another "group" that claims their leader is the incarnation of
the Adi Shakti (yes there is another meditation group claiming an
obvious fake who has no power to be the Adi Shakti), do we really
think that marketing this as a "special yoga" or stress relief and
health benefit yoga is going to get followers when there are already
loads of the same out there that charge lots of money (people feel
secure and ensured of the benefit if they have to pay for some
reason) and put so much into flashy advertising, while we twinkle
like a Christmas light on a sunny day?
I know that people may be fearful that many won't accept the fact
that "judgement day" as it were, is actually a period of time (not a
day) in which we are currently living and may scoff, ridicule or run
away from SY. Even more to that point, many are probably scared that
if we openly tell others, especially beginners, that SY is not just
a meditation, but is the only way to take part in the Last Judgement
and it is our birth right, as well as the fact that Mother is the
Holy Spirit(not just an incarnation who remains nameless at
first, or a guru, or highly evolved soul as it is being said at most
meetings) that these people may flee and never return or not come
back because its too religious or whatever. There is no doubt this
may happen, but by far I can't see it as being a trend. If anything,
if more people know the depth and truth of SY and who mother is
right up front, whether they believe or not, they would be more
inclined to stay on or keep it locked in there heads like " what if
what they are saying is true?" instead of running away and never
returning. I mean right now how many really return or practice,
especially those who have damaged their subtle system so much that
they don't feel anything for quite some time? How many of those
people will come back if they feel nothing, knowing that its just
another meditation to bring peace to the mind, like the thousands
out there claiming the same thing as we are currently explaining SY
to people?
They would and will not return because they have gotten nothing out
of it. If people knew the truth, and that this was not just a
meditation but the connection to the Holy spirit and "heaven" and
that the one who is in the picture is actually the Holy Spirit, they
would be more inclined to stay despite feeling little or nothing.
Not only that, those that run may eventually come back because of
this fact and besides, how well has our "bait people with a special
yoga and tell the whole truth later" idea worked for SY and our
collective so far? By the looks of things, not very good, or at
least as well as it could be working.
The way I see it, deceiving people or only telling part of the truth
or a "half truth" is still lying, and how long are we going to lie
or deceive in order to tell the truth? The end does not justify the
means, especially when Mother has asked us to declare the time of
Judgement and resurrection is now and that she is the Adi Shakti?
The quote to which I am referring are below; think about them:
**I am the Adi Shakti. I am the One who has come on this Earth for
the first time in this form to do this tremendous task . The more
you understand this the better it would be. You will change
tremendously.
I knew I'll have to say that openly one day and we have said it. But
now it is you people who have to prove it that I am that!"
Shri Adi-Shakti Devi
Sydney, Australia — March 21, 1983
"You have to take a stand in your family, in your surroundings,
with your friends, and you have to tell them, "You better all get
realized." The reason for that is that the Christ who crucified
Himself is going to come back with his Eleven Forces of Destruction.
And when He starts He is not going to ask you to take any
Realization. No one is going to be bothered whether you are going to
hell. He will just sort out. But those who have got Realization will
enter into the Kingdom of God. You have to enter into the Kingdom of
God here (pointing to the Sahastrara in the photo)), as I say, in
the Seventh Chakra."
Shri Adi Shakti Devi
The New Age Has Started,
Houston, USA — Oct. 6, 1981
**Words of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi:
"Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great
message - that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this time,
and that you all are capable of doing it. You are the ones who are
capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You are the flutes
which are going to play the Melody of God. I am doing all this to
perfect you to be the 'most' beautiful instruments of God. Like the
ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be sea-
worthy to sail out, when you know everything about the ship,
everything about the sea, with complete freedom and wisdom, you have
to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons
because now all you 'know'. Your job is to cross through." You
become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you become the Sun, you
become the Earth, you become the Ether, the firmament - and you
become, the Spirit. You work for all of them. All the stars and
universes you become, and take up their work."
(Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 28 September 1996)**
She has said all of this back in 1996 and how many people out there
worldwide in SY have openly done this, and how many other people
know about it outside of SY? I agree with (name withheld) that other
people are not afraid to tell of their faiths and explain to people
why their faith is the way. Why are we so fearful of ridicule?
People ridiculed Jesus but he stood firm on the truth, knowing that
what he was saying was absolute; in the same way all fears should be
given up because what we are doing and what has been asked of us is
absolute asked of us by the absolute.
The speeches we watch and the knowledge given is not only for us to
enjoy and benefit from, but for everyone to know of and benefit
from. Why can we openly declare and worship her as the Adi Shakti in
private but then keep quite about the greatest opportunity for
mankind and what many are watching the skies for signs and searching
for in public, especially since those are the very people who are
looking for God and who we have been chosen to help save? How can we
save people using dishonesty or hidden agendas, when the mode of
saving people is the truth? If we are scared, like (name withheld)
said, just let Mother do it all. We have to be up-front with the
truth, however powerful and fearful it may be for some, including
ourselves, and surrender the rest to mother, including the words.
She will help us, guide us and take care of everything as She wills
it, not how we think it should be taken care of. If people run,
they run, if they stay they stay; at least they are running or
staying based on knowing the truth, and whatever people choose and
what they decided to do and go through is all up to Mother. We are
the instruments (however badly blocked they are in my case)
and all we have to do is tell the truth and allow Mother to play the
music that will draw and sooth the listeners, comforting them and
introducing them to Her. We do nothing anyways, so why are we
worried about doing nothing? We simply do nothing and let Mother
take care of everything.
My point is we need to tell who Shri Mataji is up front and that
this is the last resurrection and judgement as prophesied in the
bible etc, as well as explaining the subtle system and how it works
etc. as is being already done, all the time, in public and at
meetings or one on one situations, which we should all strive to put
ourselves in more (grass roots! as I was talking about in the other
letter) and let mother work out the rest. At least we will be doing
what she asked us instead of dodging it, and we will know no matter
what happens, we are standing on the truth and doing as she asked
us, so we will be looked after. To me, I would rather be standing
before "MOTHER" at the end of this life knowing I helped Her do what
She came her for and She asked of me, in total truth and with all my
effort, than be asked by Her "why did you waste so much time,
enjoying the pure knowledge for yourself only, instead of
surrendering fear to me and doing as I asked?"
That's all I have to say on that. Either way, whatever is decided to
be done officially is fine. I will without a doubt, 100% of the time
(and hopefully you all will be with me in this despite what other
older, more established yogis may think) telling people up front the
truth about SY and let them decide what they will do about it, and
let Mother work it all out.
With love as always; take care
Kyyan
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